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Rev. Dr. Djiniyini Gondarra OAM and Richard Trudgen discuss customary law, democracy and dictatorship and how these apply to both Balanda and Yolngu systems of law.

Rev. Dr. Djiniyini Gondarra OAM and Richard Trudgen discuss the importance of the Makarrata mediation process ending in a reconciliation ceremony in Yolŋu law and its similarities to the Balanda (mainstream) systems of law, where defendants go into police custody and face a trial if they have committed a crime.

Rev. Dr. Djiniyini Gondarra OAM and Richard Trudgen discuss the second Makarrata mediation process, ending in a reconciliation ceremony in Yolŋu law and why all people need to return to a way of peace.

Rev. Dr. Djiniyini Gondarra OAM and Richard Trudgen discuss the third Makarrata mediation process. This is a legal mediation process carried out when a treaty has been broken between two corporate clan groups. It is a process for dispute resolution around economic issues of trade, land or shared assets, rather than smaller family disputes.

Maratja Dhamarrandji tells Richard Trudgen it's the Balanda mainstream influence that is affecting Yolŋu understanding of law and order.

Rev. Dr. Djiniyini Gondarra OAM and Richard Trudgen continue to discuss the 1957 Adjustment movement on Elcho Island and how we can change it around now.